Quotables: Lily Tomlin is Still at the Top of Her Feminist Game

6/12/2014 7:00 AM PDT, by

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"[Beyonce] is a pretty popular woman and she's married to a very powerful man, but she's still selling sex. She's selling a lot of sex to teeny-boppers. I don't know. ... I like her! I don't dislike her! But I don't pay any attention to that because -- I mean, she's fantastically beautiful and dances, but, you know, it's very suggestive. If I was a 10-year-old, I would try to emulate her like most 10-year-olds do.

For me, young girls are too sexually available! ... So, I shouldn't even talk about Beyonce because, hard as it is to believe and as much as she is present in the culture, I'm not terribly conversant with Beyonce.

The culture is so sexualized with girls and women. I was in a recording studio and a little girl who was about 4 years old was watching TV, and somebody's dancing on the TV in very elaborate sexually overt dance steps and the little girl goes, 'Oh, she's hot'. I'm thinking, this is a 4-year-old!"

--The ever-talented and always truthful Lily Tomlin on Beyonce, one of our semi-least favorite folks to discuss around there here parts, and she's so right. She's basically saying everything that we've been saying for months, now, if not longer: Beyonce's not breaking any musical ground, and she's not putting up fronts that people can't see through, because we have eyes and we're smarter than that. 

What Beyonce -- and others like Miley Cyrus -- is doing is helping to create another generation of children who are going to grow up to be like what Paris Hilton was like during her very worst years, and friends, that is not "hot."  

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Observer_The Lovely
111 days ago

but she's still selling sex. She's selling a lot of sex.....

Don't knock selling sex.......just "sock it to me"...

Enrique
111 days ago

She is a gorgeous woman ..no doubt follows for a lot men around world

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Dee
111 days ago

"Beyonce's not breaking any musical ground"?

Rewind Taylor, and stop embarrassing yourself.


Listen to "Partition," "Blow," "Haunting," the reworked "Flawless," and "Superpower" and come back to the table.

You don't have to like Beyonce and clearly she sells sex, but Bey's music is progressive and a TIDE of reviewers who know a great deal more about music than you Taylor agree on that.

As do her sales and general credibility rating, which is why she made the cover of Time 100 this year. That doesn't happen for no reason. Miley's album isn't in the same league.

The day you see Beyonce sitting on a stage with her legs splayed like little Ms. Cyrus, feel free to compare them.

Until then, your post does that thing so many bloggers make the mistake of doing, which is going to the nth to shock.

Lily Tomlin is a bad ass and phenom, she'll always be that. Her comments about Beyonce and sex are correct - although as I'm sure you know Taylor, many feminists argue using sex IS power. But, whatever.

The point is, Tomlin kept it cool. She made her observations about sex and left it there. She didn't malign Bey's music because there's nothing to malign. If you'd left it there at the sex note, your post would have been less personalized. As it is, this offering is BS.

Listen to the album again, this time - without prejudice.

dniteangel
105 days ago

Why is the parents letting the 4 year old watch that? It's not Miley Cyrus and Beyonce forcing young children to watch their videos, it's the parents job to filter out what they are watching and doing.

Ruby
27 days ago

Shame on you, Fishwrapper.

What you are doing with this article is slamming an entire culture because it does not fall in line with your pristine view of what feminism is and should be. You can't compare what Miley Cyrus does with what Beyonce does. Beyonce's message is one that allows women to express own THEIR sexuality on THEIR OWN TERMS without the male gaze. She expresses her sexuality IN SPITE of the male gaze, not FOR the male gaze.

Miley, on the other hand, seeks to appropriate and fetishize black female sexuality. She is merely wearing black culture for shits and giggles until she gets bored with it and moves on to the next trend. White America has always been good at pointing at other cultural norms, laughing, scandalizing it, appropriating it, and then patting themselves on the back for wearing it - so stylish, right guys?! Another good example of this illegal status of almost every drug. Don't believe me? Watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wONAqaxgIoo

What this article says to feminists of color is: "Your culture is too indecent, please tone it down for those of us who don't understand it and don't want to understand it."

White feminists, please stop scandalizing black culture!